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Episode 276: Deja Vu

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 In this week's episode, David Zarling and Ian McMillan discuss market breadth and participation, areas of healthcare that have been holding up well, like biotech and pharmaceuticals. They also discuss whether the leadership from large cap tech and semiconductors is over, how software is at an interesting level, Michael Burry closing his fund, Bitcoin, and an update on fixed income.  

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Welcome back to the Weekly Trend Podcast. Today is Friday, November 14th, 2025 s and P 500, currently sitting at 6 7, 7 2. I'm David Darling. I'm here with Ian McMillan with a fresh beverage. Lots to cover this week.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

I did have to grab a fresh beverage,

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

What do you got?

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

a lot to cover. I guess where we

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Well, first and foremost, what?

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Friday.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

What's your fresh beverage?

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Cherry Coke.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Yes, very nice, very underrated.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah. Not as popular as it was like in the nineties. I feel like marketing hasn't been there. I think, I think, you know, there a better logo back then. Like, do you remember the, red and black Cherry Coke logo.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

yeah. Oh yeah.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

It's kind of like a Darth Mall vibe.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Okay. Go. Star Wars like it. New Star Wars.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah. Like if, like, that's what the logo looked like anyways. Yeah. I mean, where we, we are, where we were last Friday.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

And last Friday we said we were on on some thin ice

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Bounced

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

bounce,

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Was that during the podcast?

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Bounced after the podcast recording,

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Okay.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

so we were on thin ice. Retesting that level again this Friday. So maybe we're gonna find out that the ice is thick there. Not actually thin.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Oh,

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

mean, we'll, yeah, we'll see where we end up at the end of the day. But if we were to close where we are right now near this 67, 70 level, having tested the 65, 50 level twice last Friday and this Friday, and hold that, maybe that's actually proof of buyers being there.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah, I don't really wanna test it at third. I hope we're not having the same conversation next Friday. You don't wanna test it too many times, but that's good. That's good that it's, yeah. It could be thick ice. Be solid for some ice fishing.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Oh yes. Yeah. Well, and maybe speaking of that, are we gonna go to too many metaphors and analogies, but. Underneath the surface, there had been lack of fish, some breath deterioration, and here you can make the argument that,

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

You think it's improving?

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

well, I think some of the really aggressive names, whether it was like Bitcoin mining or AI stocks.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah, the quantum stuff. Quantum stuff got hit.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

You know, so some of that stuff catching down or even the fact that you could argue your fangs and your mags, your large cap tech caught down to the weak breath, I think is the, maybe the fairest way to say it,

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Okay.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

and I'll go back to we were not. You know,'cause we've had weak breath from, I would say mid-December. Like when you look at bullish percent flipping to os, when you look at like percentage of stocks above a 50 or 200 day, you really start to see that deterioration in mid-September. And you saw tech go the opposite way. And now you're seeing that, when I say tech, I mean like semiconductors. Large cap tech. Did that just catch down? And we're gonna start to see a broadening out from here on out. I mean, time will tell. We can't say it on this episode whether that's the case or not. cause you still have to see prior highs reclaimed before you could say that. But it is interesting paying attention to what's happened since mid, mid September with the underneath, under the surface weakness. You know, semiconductors and tech were still fine during, from that point through now, but like energy and healthcare, biotech stocks, pharma stocks, holding up pretty good.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah, biotech to be real nice. Another big candle well, we'll probably have a few. Bullish engulfing candles today if this holds. But biotech, yeah, continues to definitely be a leader. I mean, really didn't flinch at all during October. And it made a big, I mean, that was really, it made a big, big relative push bush over the course of October and into November. Which is why the realtor looks like today. So, I mean, probably a clue, like we say, right when the markets has like a red day and people are like, oh, you know, look at what was green, which I think is super valid. I mean, think of, I mean, when the market has a red month a stupid month, it's sideways and, you know, lots of big swings. Well, what's something that was steady and green? definitely have to give biotech a nod. There because it certainly has been pretty steady through all the noise,

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Yeah.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

noise.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Yeah, I think that's a fair.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Another

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

A fair.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

I think I, I mean, I put it in that now it's, I mean, I guess biotech's been strong for a bit. Holly, it just takes so much catch up on a relative basis. could put solar in that category

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Okay.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

too. I mean pretty, so I mean, not that it doesn't have up and down days. I mean it had red days in October, but again, I mean I think a pretty good October especially. I mean it was strong before that on a relative basis, continued that through October has continued that in. Think I hit a little bit this week, but, it's a strong, I mean, it's kind of one of those areas too where you're like, Ugh, biotech, ugh, solar. Like, do I wanna, do I wanna do this? They've held in there.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Well, another risk on areas, right? I don't, I don't think that those probably fall under the speculative risk on side of the spectrum of things. If you were to. Categorize things. I don't think you sit there and say, oh yeah, let's pile into biotech and solar stocks if the market's gonna tank. We'll see though, I mean, I don't think we're outta the woods by any means. I mean, it'd be really nice to hold this, you know, 66, 50, 66, you know, 6,600 on the s and p to prove, which just happens to be the point of control since the tariff tantrums, by the way. But it'd be really nice to hold this level to give us some more clear lines in the sand as far as where we're seeing buying, showing up. And do you think, so you think the tech and semiconductor thing is over? Is that done?

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

No, I hope not. No, I think it's done. I mean, it's still a good leader. XLK is still, I mean, if you look at SMH relative chart. It's actually like a perfect retest. I mean, you gotta do it here, but I think it's fine. Definitely still like the, so I mean, if you take an SW that never really got going. What's the other one you like? The other software IGV

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

IG.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

See that never really got, I mean I still put it in the mega cap, large cap category. I don't know, man.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

You, you bring up a, actually a,

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

tsm.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

you bring up a really good piece here though. So IGV software

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

weeks since mid-September, but man, is it at a really interesting spot right now. Where if buyers prove themselves at this, using IGV 1 0 6 1 0 5, 1 0 6, right. We got the 200 day moving average. You've got the, the August lows you have the November and February November, 2024. February, 2025 highs. I could see software holding here.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

What do you, what if like, what these ETFs could hear us talking to them, hear the things we say,

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

I talk to them all the time.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

they're like, you, I gotta do this. Like I've gotta do this for my shareholders. We're at the 200 day, it's time, like it's time to really suck up and get going.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Yeah. Well that I talk, I talk, I talk to ETFs all the time. My wife's like, who are you talking to over there? I'm just talking to IGV. Don't worry about it. You gotta hold this. You gotta hold this buddy. You gotta hold 1 0 5. But I do think your, your point is just how software's been weak. But even, I mean, you look at software versus semiconductors and where that's sitting. You know, we're sitting at the June 24 lows, the May, 2002 lows. When you look at IGV versus s and p, I mean, we're at the April 20, 25 lows. I mean that this is a logical area. I don't know if you meant to bring up software, but this is a logical AR area where you could see software regain traction. I would say

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

You could, you could, could see a lot of things.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

you could, Ian. It is a market of stocks. We could see a lot of things happen, but really,

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

on the notes speaking of tech semi you have written down here, Nvidia has earnings next week,

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

yeah. I think

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

so.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

I'm gonna sound dramatic, but I mean one of the largest components in the world across. Various ETFs that I talk to. I mean, Nvidia is the largest waiting in the s and p 500

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

I'll say this. If you, or like your wife has been wanting to do something like nice, expensive, maybe she's wanted like to go out to a real nice dinner, do it this weekend. Don't wait till after and video earnings. That's what I would, that's what

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

too much. You're just saying the risk reward is, is the, the risk is too high.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Just if you gotta, if you gotta go out with a happy memory, do it this weekend because it, I mean, we could all blow up if Nvidia goes down.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Yeah. Well, and it's all gonna be about price reaction, right? It's not about the.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

you don't have to tell her it's because of that. Just say, you know what, babe? I've been thinking about it and. You really wanna check out this new steakhouse lately? We're gonna do it this weekend and she's going to love you. But you know, in the back of your mind, you're kind of hedging your bets because if Nvidia blows up, you don't, you don't have to worry about her asking about the steakhouse going forward. You've already checked that box.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

You're saying it's off the to-do list.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

And if, and if Nvidia doesn't blow up. I mean, okay. Then dinner's basically been paid for, it's kind of a win-win mentally,

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

We should start a, we should start a relationship podcast.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

a financial therapy. How to, how to your marriage via the stock market.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

I did not think we would go there on the video, but I love it that we did

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

I

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

and

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

that, I do think that, I mean, yeah, you should, or any other big purchases, like, I mean, don't buy a house, but anything because you're not gonna wanna do it next week if NVIDIA's down 7%.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

yeah, but it's an, it is an important component like.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

super

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

not gonna be what the earnings are, it's just gonna be what's the price reaction. And I will find it interesting.'cause we've seen a lot of big tech names lately report their Q4 earnings with negative price responses.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah,

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

So if, if Nvidia follows suit, that likely is gonna be really hard for the broad index like s and p right? Your star quarterback on the team if he is not performing. It's really gonna be hard for the team to succeed overall. Same thing if we have Nvidia doing that now. Also a scenario that could unfold. Great earnings, negative price response gets the bears maxed out super short, and that's when we base out and everything. That's the final flush. It's the final flush. We finally get a correction that's, you know, greater than 3%, I should say, since the tariff tantrum. Get a little bigger correction. Really flush the hands out, paper hands, and then things move higher. That's a possibility. I.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

What do you think about? I mean, pretty pro, I would say pretty polarizing, dude. What do you think about Michael Burry closing up shop? Well.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Yeah. Michael Burry, for those who don't know the, the enigmatic hedge fund manager of Scion Capital, a main character in the movie, the Big Short, which everybody loves to watch, and I feel like that's the only movie people have ever watched.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

On finance. Yeah,

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Is lame because there's so many good ones.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

I mean, I, I would even put, I mean, different type of movie, but like I would put, well, it's my number one finance movie, but trading places.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Yep.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

That's my favorite anyways. Yeah. Famous, right. So he is, I mean, I guess, I guess famous Bear. I mean, he's pretty negative. I would say a lot of the, like his, a lot of his stuff gets like, is like turned like a lot of stuff around him that was just like slop, like even recently they talked about his, like recent 13 f. And how many,

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

How short he was on Nvidia and pal.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

he was, but like, it's not, like, that's not true. Like as normal people don't know how to like actually look at a portfolio and anyways

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

but he's, he's infamous for his housing short,

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

he's

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

he got a big,

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

for, yeah. So

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

his big payday and he's been, he's been bearish on,

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

bearish. Yeah.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

on AI and those things, and I totally get it. And now he closes his shop.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

he's thrown in the towel.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Now, I don't know if he's throwing in the towel personally. And my guess is he still has a bet on himself,

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah, I'm sure he still manages his own money.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

manages his own money, but he removed the outside money equation from it, which could be brilliant. But yeah, anytime a a, a notorious bear closes shop. You sit there and go, Hmm hmm.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

he said he was like on the, on the bigger and better things. I don't know.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

But I mean, anytime a shop like that closes up, you, you just wonder. Hmm. Right. It's because bull market tops don't happen because you have a high quantity of people shorting. In fact that's just future fuel. It's when you run out of buying'cause fu put buying. All that is is future long buying of stocks just stacked firewood. And we remove the pile of firewood. It removes buyers and that's really how bull markets end is lack of buyers. Buyer exhaustion. Is Scion closing a sign of. This bull market being over? I don't know. We won't know that. And that's the hard part. Like people want to Oh, that. Are you making a call? I'm not making a call. I'm just saying Scion closing. We should sit up and take notice. But I'd also add on the flip side, it seems like all the major investment banks are putting out headlines about how retail investors should sell right now, like the tech run is over. Or even the Economist magazine with. A skier upside down in the snow with a chart on it of downward arrows. So there's both. There's both out there. You know, you don't typically see those type of magazine covers at tops or the headlines that we've seen out of, you know, investment banks, talking about how, you know, the corrections upon us. You know, we need to be careful. Retail should be selling. That's not typically the narrative you see out there. You know, like Wells Fargo says it's time to take tech profits off the table. I don't, you know, like I don't, you typically don't see that type of narrative or headline out there at the top,

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

I

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

or we got a headline out there. We've never been so sure of an imminent financial crash. Industry leaders across all sectors come together to say, these signs of US economic meltdown are undeniable. And that's in the mail,

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Undeniable bro.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

And that's from November 2nd.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Woo.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

So really that's how it works. All these headlines telling people, I don't, I've never seen it work that way. So it's interesting on, on the one hand you have a bear shop closing up and on the other hand you got media saying retail should sell. We'll see,

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

bitcoin's going down

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

yeah, Bitcoin got hit.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

below a

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

do you think about crypto? What do you think about crypto?

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

It stinks.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Not literally, just figuratively.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah, I mean now, I mean, yeah, I Crypto and it's going up right now. I don't wanna own it.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Yeah. All of them, right?

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

donezo maybe forever.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Forever.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

No,

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

I mean, we are, we are in bear market territory since people like to use minus 20% as bear market.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

you go.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Bitcoin's down 20% since October.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Broken into rate of trend from last

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

We. Below a 200 day below prior highs, not a great look.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

I wouldn't be long.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Yeah, I think it's, I think it's hands off for now and I do th I do think we're at an interesting spot, both stocks and crypto, where like, you're in that in between, right? You can be. So we, the long term uptrend for equities is still intact.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

You have a short term countertrend move with all sorts of weakness that already happened underneath the surface. It's also very hard to get short right here. Like you got the VIX above 20 and you're gonna get short. Then it's too late. So it is this InBetween, this weird InBetween spot where, believe it or not, these corrections within uptrends are perfectly normal, right? We get. Seven, 3% dips per year, and this would be our fourth one since the 20% pullback. Would you, would you consider, let me ask you this, would you consider the correction from February to April, 2025? 20%?

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah. Is it intraday, isn't it Technically 20%.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Yeah. Intraday.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah, I was looking at that earlier this week.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

So we've, we've had three. Do we get, do we get a 5% pullback? Do we get more weakness? I think it all depends on where we close today. You know, I, I, I do think Friday closing prices are important and if we can't hold last week, last week's lows, that would be, you know, you could see that we're having a 5% pullback. And that's just normal. That's a normal part of markets. But crypto's another world. I know alt coins have gotten hammered. The big boys, Bitcoin, Ethereum, ripple, have been weak even on a relative basis. You know, huge opportunity cost.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah, ripple, not too hot. Solana looks pretty rough. Luckily. Head back down to the bottom of this range, 1 24.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

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ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

is going on. Fixed income. I didn't even, I guess it's been kind of flat. Well, someone told me TLT had been getting hit. Yeah, look at that. Well, rates went straight up since they cut rates. How about that?

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Yeah. It's almost like the bond market knows better than Jerry.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Still below 200, day on 30 year. So maybe just retesting that. I don't know. We'll see. Hmm.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

I think right now fixed income, you've got kind of a mixed bag. You've got, on the one hand, you had convertibles breakdown this week. On the other hand, you've got emerging market bonds doing just fine. That's not risk off. You got junk bonds trying to hold it together kind of also at an important level for something like JNK gotta hold this 200 day and the$96 level on JNK. And we've seen triple C credit spreads rise since, you know, when you talk about underneath the surface. CCC credit spreads have been rising since September, so surprising, shocking. CCC credit spreads tightening lower liquidity weakness underneath the surface. A catch down this week. I think it's really important where we close today. I do.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

I agree.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Right. What else are Ian, before we wrap this one up and get it off to Kevin for.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

I don't know anything going on overseas. I guess Brazil looks good. Argentina looks good. Again, it's kind of been consolidating lately, but the last couple weeks, but still really nothing from China.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

Spain, European financials, I mean.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah, European financials look very good. Japan, continues to look good. Maybe that's more of the currency hedge stuff, but there's a lot of Japanese ETFs that,

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

What about gold and gold miners? Where are you at on that?

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Where am I on that? I don't know. It kind of feels. We went up like GDXJ went up, filled the gap from, well, not, I guess we went up to 1 0 1, 1 0 2 I, I mean still obviously still on an app end relative charts. Interesting.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

It is not like a slam dunk, is it?

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

No.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

You could see, you could see gold and gold miners moving higher. A lot I, I'm guessing some of it will depend on what we do with what, what the market does with the trade weighted dollar here, you know, DXY still below 100, still below a falling 200 day moving average. But if it breaks back above a hundred, you could see, you could see potentially some, a definite slowdown in consolidation in gold, priced in dollars for sure.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

Yeah, yeah, I could see the dollar and it kind of looks like it might wanna go higher.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

It's a great thing about using price data. We can wait for next week for more information. Anything else, Ian, before we ask our listeners to give us a high ranking and. And share us out on their socials.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

No, I think that's it.

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

All right. Kind of a short one this week, and that's okay. Did you get through your cherry Coke yet?

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

I am close

david_1_11-14-2025_113915

You're close. All right, then it is time to wrap it up. We appreciate everybody listening once again this week. Give us a high ranking on your platform, a choice, and spread the word it, it helps confirm that what we're. Putting out there is providing value to you. We appreciate it.

ian_1_11-14-2025_123918

every great weekend everyone.